Beyoncs Renaissance tour slammed by critics as a complete disaster

People were walking out early, the lipsyncing, bad sound, lots of production but no soul, boring.

There should be a class-action lawsuit against any “artist” who lip syncs at a live concert.

Cowardly and devoid of talent. A media creation and an imposter.

And she’s fat.

Someone with thighs that huge should never wear something that short.

Even her heavy duty Spanx support hose can't tame those friction causing drumsticks.

She's already so bored that she has to lean up against the railing starting at 2:20.

OP where's the link to critics slamming it? Even though I think she's way overrated, I didn't really see anything that bad about the video, other than her alleged foot injury.

She did quote Shalamar in that number, which was kinda cool.

Her eyes are so dead. Soulless. An automaton. No life.

She’s basically an ATM for all the leeches that surround her.

Twenty years of fucking Jay Z would do that to anyone.

^well, she's been at this since the late 1990s, the last Millennium. There's nothing left for her to accomplish in her genre field. And she lacks the education and creative confidence to try anything else. She's probably bored shitless as R4 says.

Does she still lie about her age? She’s 51, right?

Those are the thighs of a menopausal woman with a bon bon addiction.

I will never understand most people's fascination with Beyoncé, a modestly talented, over-caffeinated cheerleader of a pop singer. Her tiny range and hollow vibe just never reached me.

Not true OP. This is a lie. Don't fall for OP's troll bait. The racists will love this thread. An echo chamber of hate.

That entire stage setup looks like a hot mess.

This thread of hate reads like a Russian bot farm.

I thought she sounded fine, especially by today's standards, but it looked like too much was going on on stage: Too many dancers, a band, colorful costumes, multi-layered stage, and the glittery, mirror stuff on the stage.

[quote]lots of production but no soul

This should be Beyonce's epitaph.

Isn’t she playing Shamu in “The Little Mermaid?”

It's annoying how Madonna is called out for appropriation but Beyonce has basically exploited Black queer culture for this album and tour. What history does she have with drag balls? She just played in a homophobic country and got paid millions. She is a hypocrite. (As much as I like Kylie Minogue, she also deserved to be called out, too, for the same transgression).

And she's too stupid. That's why she doesn't do interviews. Can you imagine somebody asking Beyonce about Black Lives Matter or drag balls history and Bey trying to form an articulate answer?

[quote] Can you imagine somebody asking Beyonce about Black Lives Matter or drag balls

Are those, like, testicles that hang out of a dress?

NOW they figured her shows are souless?

No matter how bad Beyoncé’s tour is - there is no way it could be worse than the ongoing car crash of Janet Jackson's tour.

Middle-aged has been who fucked the ugliest man in show business to further an otherwise middling career.

Back in the day, they called that a prostitute.

Those songs... what is she saying. 'Rat-a-tat-tat/Nigga sing flat/Pop dat coochie cuz mama got back'.

Her dancers are something else...

I figured NPR would climb up her ass to give their review but my god...

[quote]The future belongs to an American monarch and the gates to her undeniable renaissance have finally opened.

NPR has lost its damn mind.

I think you hit your head and stumbled into Janet Jackson's concert instead, OP.

The thing about basing your reputation on your live perfomances rather than your singing (or songwriting) is that as soon as you get older and can't quite keep up with your younger self, people start getting disappointed, so you have to make it flashier and flashier just to keep their attention. And when you stop performing altogether, you vanish into history - you're totally forgotten. That's what going to happen to Beyoncé. (Garth Brooks also falls into that category.)

Someone like Tina Turner (or, say, Janis Joplin) is not only a great performer live but a compelling singer on a recording, when you can't even see her.

[quote]The future belongs to an American monarch and the gates to her undeniable renaissance have finally opened.

All media has to kowtow to this moderately talented individual or face the wrath of her husband and his sycophants. It's like not worshipping Trump - you face the consequences.

Wait until you see her shows in LA, New York, New Orleans, and Atlanta. She isn't going to blow her voice out on the first night, and they usually do the first shows in smaller markets to test things out and work out the kinks in the show. She's the most talented performer and pop star that we have at this point. Girls 20 years younger can't sing and also dance as well as her. Doja Cat is the only young artist comparable to Beyonce, but I think she runs out of gas pretty quickly in her performances

[quote] She's the most talented performer and pop star that we have at this point.

Bwahahahahahah

She’s dumb and her music is awful. She’s fat as a house too.

[quote] All media has to kowtow to this moderately talented individual or face the wrath of her husband and his sycophants.

She’s their token black. She played up BLM for all its worth. Now critics and SJW are too scared to say anything she does is crap.

Is she on the Ozempic hunny? Rapid weight loss

[quote]She's the most talented performer and pop star that we have at this point.

Then "we" are in trouble. This might signal the end of popular music in the US.

Was she lip syncing? She made a few off-hand comments to the crowd, the mic was at least on.

I bet she’s injured or guarding against injury, her movements on stage are quite conservative. She also looks like she’d rather be anywhere else.

Going to a Beyoncé concert is just another way to virtue signal.

R37 then why doesn't she just retire? She has enough money.

Lot of money to watch a big tv screen in a stadium

People don’t go to be entertained, they go to worship and take selfies.

careful of R12 irl, she’s ready to make anything into a racial transgression. She has her phone at the ready to put your ass on Twitter! Didn’t remember the pickles on her Subway sandwich, white boy?! Racist! Didn’t give her extra ketchup packets, Cracker??? Racist!!!!!

[quote]She's the most talented performer and pop star that we have at this point.

No.

She’s always had an “incest survivor” vibe to me.

"Doja Cat is the only artist comparable to Beyonce'"

Accoo mes?

[quote] Someone like Tina Turner (or, say, Janis Joplin) is not only a great performer live but a compelling singer on a recording, when you can't even see her.

Mariah Carey, whether you like her songs or not, has vocal chops. If she had taken care of her voice, she could have done concerts with minimal background. She wouldn't have had to move around much on the stage or try to "dance."

Instead, she tries to compete with JLo and Beyoncé.

That said, I heard that Beyoncé did get injured and had surgery. Hence, the Britney-like dancing (arms moving, legs staying still).

Beyoncé is fighting the IRS b/c of $2.7 million in back taxes.

This hag is past her prime. I wouldn’t be surprised if cancellations were in the future for this tour.

I’m in the mood to fuck something up

I need some drank in my cup

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What beautiful lyrics.

But according to the Beyhive member who always posts here, it was incredible!

[quote]Her eyes are so dead. Soulless. An automaton. No life.

Not true. Turn on a flashlight behing her head and her eyes will light up.

Video of Beyonce’s barely sold out show with guy sleeping on empty seats.

the half empty venue, people staying SEATED, the man sleeping in the back 😭 beyoncé, girl…

Lady Gaga doesn't sell nearly as well as someone like Taylor or Adele (well, used to) anymore but she is guarnateed to be a live draw as long as Madonna was. For decades, Madonna was known for her dedication and energy during live shows and Gaga is the same.

R54 I'm no Beyonce fan, but the arena looks pretty full to me, and that guy asleep in the bleachers is probably someone who works for the venue taking a break.

Yeah, I am not a huge Beyonce fan but that looks pretty full.

This isn't Janet level of empty seats, which were already discounted and still couldn't sell.

Beyonce's fans are loyal and she could probably tour until she turns 60.

I don't know why she is in a tax dispute, though. $2.7 million sounds like not much for her. Money troubles? Why is it only her in tax trouble and not husband Jay-Z?

She’s lying about the sold out shows. She’s not at capacity. Sad.

Bey is known for “buying” the leftover seats then moving them to scalpers to fake out a sell out.

Go look at the resale sites, you can’t find a single Taylor Swift ticket for less than $1000, you can go to Beyoncé’s show for as cheap as $50.

Bey’s “era” is over.

Taylor is at full capacity, with only a few hundred tickets left over with scalpers. Beyoncé has thousands and thousands upon thousands of tickets left. Her popularity is waning.

Lady Gaga will NOT be a huge draw going forward. She wasn’t selling out her tours and faked injury to get out of them for a long time. She got very lucky with COVID because many are now flocking to every concert they can. Look at Janet Jackson. She was struggling to sell out very small 4,000 or less seat venues for a long time. Now she’s doing much better. Lady Gaga doesn’t have the catalog nor the stage presence to keep up successfully touring. Her music career is pretty much DOA except when she links up with someone more popular like Ariana.

Beyoncé’s tour is expected to compete, financially, with Madonna’s but she will blow Madonna out of the water performance wise.

[quote]Bey is known for “buying” the leftover seats then moving them to scalpers to fake out a sell out.

Speaking of which when does Madge's tour start?

People are tired of Beyonce and her hype.

Taylor is more relatable and although I am not much of a fan, you can tell Taylor worked her ass off for her latest tour and it's different from her previous ones.

Beyonce's latest tour looks like a rehash.

R66 That’s a Lady Gaga move. Beyoncé doesn’t have to do that as she’s actually popular in music. Lady Gaga is in movies (and she can barely act) but she can’t open a movie on her name alone. Not even close.

Taylor's album is the 3rd most streamed of 2022 while Beyonce's missed the top 10 (at number 12). But Beyonce's fans keep acting like she's as big as MJ!

R70 Bey has benefited from the environment that worships anything blq. She’s mediocre.

[quote]Beyonce's fans are loyal and she could probably tour until she turns 60.

Also, Destiny's Child has yet to do a reunion tour. Whenever they decide to get that going Beyonce will essentially have another career resurgence, the demand for it by the fans has been overwhelming. She could essentially tour off their hits, not make more solo albums and not have the pressure of carrying a tour by herself as she gets older.

The crowd sounded tepid at best with their applause. She’s so over.

Beyoncé thinks she is Tina Turner, but she’s like Diana Ross without the engaging personality.

Its also worth noting that this was in Sweden, like someone said Im sure she will blow her voice out in the US for the insane stans

It also was night two. In Sweden.

Why I don’t get is the worship from other like celebs. Like when Adele winning an award and having her moment, decides to put all the focus on Beyoncé and calling her queen and groveling at her feet so to speak. I’ve seen this happen a lot and even on talk shows someone calling her a goddess. It’s ridiculous and creepy.

R77 it’s called virtue signaling

R77 People do that for Taylor all the time. The over the top extreme hyperbole given to Taylor is something I’ve never witnessed in my life. Go read some of her concert reviews. You’d think there was never a more talented singer, songwriter, performer in the history of the world as Taylor. Now. I see her named dropped in bios about other celebrities like Elizabeth Taylor (if Liz were born today it’d be like Taylor), or Joni Mitchell (if Joni were competing today she’d have a hard time breaking through with a songwriter like Taylor around).

I like Beyonce but this tour looks boring.

I would never pay to see Beyonce, but there is a strange thing on DL in which a few posters just revel in female artists doing poorly. I really am curious what that's about.

R81 never notices the threads shitting all over Sam Smith or Trump or the countless other white men, gay or straight. No one is allowed to do anything but praise black and/or female people, or the gender and race cards start flying.

r77 it is sometimes over the top, but in the case of Adele and Lizzo it was fine. Both of them are younger than Beyonce and people seem to forget that Beyonce has been doing this for a long fucking time. They are just giving respect to people who came before they did.

I was not impressed with the album and this tour looks like standard issue Beyonce.

Most of these tours are just $500+ for a mediocre light show and to stare at an LED screen.

R32 Please someone list a current pop artist that sings and dances as well as her. The only artist near Beyonce's talent and success is Lady Gaga. Watch Taylor Swift dance or wear revealing clothing .... it makes people uncomfortable. Sure, she's can sometimes be disappointing as a recording artist. The songs may not be of your taste, but you can't deny her talent on stage. Beyonce haters are deranged and jealous.

R85 it’s not that she is NOT somewhat talented on stage, it’s that the praise overinflated. She is not Tina Turner.

Tina was over 60 here. Check back about Bey in 20 years.

Twitter is already showing all the unsold seats right from Ticketmaster. The brain dead ghetto ho is all smoke and mirrors. She hasn’t had a real hit in decades.

Jay Z got caught fudging her numbers via his Tidal service.

[quote]R37] then why doesn't she just retire? She has enough money.

Because she’s Beyoncé Inc. and has been for a long time. Too many people rely on her to make their living. If she retires there goes their jobs. I’m guessing that has to be part of it.

Beyoncé has 1T monthly listeners on Spotify and sells 4B tickets per concert.

R85 No, Lady Gaga is nowhere near as talented as Beyoncé. Lady Gaga has a pedestrian voice, can’t dance, and her songwriting is laughable (as is Beyoncé’s).

She reminds me so much of Nippy, except for her lack of vocal brilliance, a brain, capacity for spontaneity, a charitable spirit and pathos.

Other than the lack of those things, she's so similar to Nippy.

But Miss Prideful Thing does have several things dear Whitney didn't have, such as soullessness and a rubber ass and hips.

And as for husbands, even a doper thug is better than a cold-eyed thug ringleader.

Wow, she overshot the runway with a stadium tour on some of these stops 75% of the tickets are unsold. Her PR machine tried to create insane hype about presale.

Taylor Swift on the other hand is fully sold out on all stops. No competition.

R87 Every artist has die hard fans that ride for their "Queen". If I posted my feelings about Taylor Swift on Twitter, I would get death threats from 20-30 yo white women. It's how stan culture works. I'm sick of people saying she has NO talent, even if it's just a reaction to her hype. Sure, she's on the decline. But there are so many artists who are very talented and very entertaining, but they can't put on a show like her, and they respect her for that. TBH, I only like two of the songs off of Renaissance. And I don't think Beyonce is better than Michael or Tina in their primes, I'm talking about the music landscape TODAY.

The only reason Madonna is touring is because Taylor and Beyoncé are coming for her crown. Madonna will hang onto it for another cycle, at least, due to the amount of money the tour has already made in ticket sales alone and without the expected expansion.

[quote]The only reason Madonna is touring is because Taylor and Beyoncé are coming for her crown. Madonna will hang onto it for another cycle, at least, due to the amount of money the tour has already made in ticket sales alone and without the expected expansion.

Madonna has never been willing to become a heritage act until now. Her previous tours were to perform her most recent albums. This year is the 40th anniversary of Holiday/The First Album, and she's doing a greatest hits tour,

The problem with Renaissance is that it's not a good album, it's basically unlistenable drivel with no decent songs at all. Anyone who says it's great music is lying through their bum hole. The album sold poorly by Bey standards and she's a boring, robotic performer. You're better off watching a filmed show, at least you can see it then.

R99 Then why did the critics praise the hell out of it and all her albums? Hmmm?

R101 Nice try but they kiss Taylor’s ass more.

Her figure looks pretty good to me.

R88 That's the real deal!!! ELECTRIC ENERGY! All the ladies nowadays are crap in comparison.

Beyoncé was best when she did fun pop/R&B music. She’s not a club kid or disco diva; she might have affection for dance music but it’s not in her DNA. Her efforts to compete with/emulate Rihanna and Nicki Minaj are similarly awkward; she’s not “hard.” The sheer number of songwriters and samples and producers on Renaissance are impressive from a technical standpoint, but her own personality doesn’t really come through.

Stan culture is the worst thing to happen to music in the past 10 years or so. It's fucking toxic to the max. The irony being that many of these Swifties and members of the Beyhive are the first to lecture others on how toxic they are being when they attack their idols.

R100 because they had to or face the wrath of the Beyhive, social media cancellation and death threats.

I love Tina. LOVE. She is exciting.

[quote]Also, Destiny's Child has yet to do a reunion tour. Whenever they decide to get that going Beyonce will essentially have another career resurgence, the demand for it by the fans has been overwhelming

There is ZERO demand for a Destiny’s Child reunion.

[quote]NPR has lost its damn mind.

Now stands for "Nigger, please. Really?"

What Lady Gaga has, Beyonce can't spell.

R116 come on, Beyoncé can spell fug!

There are videos where there are lots of empty seats, dead crowds and even one where someone was straight up sleeping on the chairs. This tour is a dud.

Is anyone coming up to replace these singers?

R119 the next Beyonce/ Adele/ Taylor Swift will be an AI creation.

R120, you may be right. There should be another Beyoncé on deck by now. Taylor and Adele have some more time.

God, she needs a 10-member backing dance ensemble, four backing singers and three fake musicians/dancers on top of costumes, lights, a full orchestra and shiny decorations, to mask how bad the music is and how clumsy, bored and unengaged she looks... And let's not even talk about her "generous proportions". And this is supposed to be one of the biggest singing superstars ever?

Beyoncé had protégés but none of their careers have panned out so far.

Big Fat Latto is coming to replace this bitch.

R123 one is the lead in a Disney film opening in less than two weeks. Might flop, but we’ll see.

R5 It’s a motherfucking lie. OP and his fake WW personalities can all die in a grease fire.

Try to imagine Beyonce on stage, alone, nothing but her and a microphone, for an entire evening.

Bwah!

Tina Turner, age 70, We Don't Need Another Hero.

R10, hates women and bitchy gay vibes seen from Space. Nothing more repugnant than a bitchy queen with small penis

R129 sorry but she’s just boring, alone or with all the stage tricks

This thread is a great example of posters who constantly pull the race card if the slightest criticism is made. Tina Turner is being exalted as an icon and the shining example of perfection, Madonna and Taylor Swift fully shit on, and yet because Beyawncé is not worshipped it’s all RACISM!!!

R129 like what? Like flopping around on top of a piano, with a full band, backup singers and lights galore.

R132 who has cried racism cunt. Certainly not me. Tina was new black, looked down on blacks after escaping Ike. It’s widely known in the industry. She’s a great talent with a fake British accent.

R134 obviously didn’t read the entire thread

Critics are a joke nowadays. Its like they're in a competition to see who can create the most hyperbolic ass-licking reviews of every major popstar in order to pander and get Twitter stan freaks on their side. Whoever said stan culture ruined pop music is correct. I can't even take any reviews of mainstream popstars seriously anymore.

She's moving like Mariah these days

R133 You were owned. Here she is singing a standard.

R123 Chloe and Halle Bailey are genuinely talented. I think they'll both have lasting careers.

R140, probably, but they won't be the next Beyoncé.

No one ever was the next Madonna. No one will be the next Beyonce.

R138, she's lipsynching to a tuned track, dear.

This thread sounds like a bunch of teenagers arguing outside of school.

So what female pop diva can actually sellout a stadium tour these days?

We know Madonna, Taylor, bey, and Gaga can.

I assume Adele. And Rihanna.

Can Ariana? Dua? Billie?

I’m no longer up to date on these things.

[quote]I would never pay to see Beyonce, but there is a strange thing on DL in which a few posters just revel in female artists doing poorly. I really am curious what that's about.

The cranks who bitch about all women regardless of era are just trolls and old sexists. The people who bitch about all "modern" singers, i.e. the 2000s to now, are old geezers who are terrified of change. The guys who have been posting "Beyonce is black trash who only has fans because of virtue signalers" are racists.

All three groups are making an appearance on this thread, as usual.

The last time anyone on this thread was a teenager, sock hops were still in fashion. These are guys who got grounded in 1956 by their be-crinolined mothers for saying the word "daddy-o," which is why they're on their sixth decade of railing against the evils of slang.

You don't go to a Beyonce concert for the quality of music, in the same way that you don't go to McDonald's for the quality of food.

R148, right! You go to both places to overpay to see a cheap looking clown in a bunch of makeup with fake hair and impractical shoes.

If you criticize Beyoncé you are racist. There will be no negative talk of THE icon of the age. There is only Beyoncé. All hail Beyoncé.

I was TOLD that Beyonce is the best live entertainer out there. She stood, then walked around and shook her ass a little. Waved her arms, too, to be fair.

All the work was done by the background dancers and elaborate set.

I thought she was supposed to a great dancer. Cow couldn’t even walk down some stairs without taking a break.

R138 Babra visibly winces at 2:15 when Beyonce tries to screech out the high notes.

Barbra was not a Beyonce fan that night. She reacts as if she had just discovered a yeast infection.

I think Bey lip-synched at Kennedy Center

Barbra recently said she would have preferred if Beyonce and Will Smith were in the Star is Born remake lol. Beyonce, sure (even though she's a bad actress). But paired with Will Smith?

She suggested it because she wanted it to be a flop.

R156 Barbara can fuck the fuck off. She’s jealous over how amazing GaGa and BCoop nailed it. Baba playing the “I’m a white person who supports blacks for everything” card. Sorry Will Smith sucks.

Haha. Who didn't swoon over Beyonce's portrayal of the great Etta James?

R158 typical old wealthy wannabe upscale hippie white lady

“I’m so progressive!”

R160 That's the role that pretty much killed her film career aspirations.

Beyonce is an asshole.

[quote]Beyoncé, one of the biggest stars in the world, may not be as gracious and kind as many would hope, according to one user who shared their fiancé's experience working at a restaurant that many celebrities would visit. While the fiancé loved most of the celebrities who came in, they hated dealing with Beyoncé and Jay-Z. Apparently, Beyoncé was extremely entitled and rude to the staff.

R143, R138 you dumb stankin tone deaf and/or lying bitch made cunt. Those are live vocals. They don’t allow you to lipsync the Kennedy Center Honors you fucking idiot.

R164 In Beyonce's case, they should have.

Icon Barbera Streisand was so impressed. It was like a teacher watching their student. I love how into the performance she was.

Have we had a single link to a critic ‘slamming it’?

I just did a quick review search and every single one is positive. Is OP just inventing things in order to satisfy his Beyoncé hatred?

She's always been so ridiculously mediocre.

Black Twitter says it’s no good.

R167 It’s a fucking lie. OP is a nothing ass bitch.

She sucks. Nothing about her appeals to me whatsoever.

Who are these freaks who defend her like she was their mother or sister? She wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. In fact, she probably wouldn't even bother calling someone to piss on you.

R172 Queen Bey is the most selfless celebrity entertainer of all time. She is a Goddess.

Why not respect her?

[quote] Queen Bey is the most selfless celebrity entertainer of all time. She is a Goddess.

Speaking of stan culture...

R174 But why the disrespect?

Why respect her? Why respect ANY entertainer for that matter? They are entertainers, not saints or doctors making life-altering decisions.

Again why would you randomly disrespect anyone?

R177 Why would you randomly stan anyone?

R179 You see I hate people who run away from questions. You asserted that why should anyone respect her? Do you demand respect unless proven otherwise.

I bet you randomly disrespected the lady at Starbucks this morning. You randomly disrespected the guy on the train. You are very problematic.

[quote] I bet you randomly disrespected the lady at Starbucks this morning. You randomly disrespected the guy on the train. You are very problematic.

This is insane.

People have to earn respect. What has she done to earn respect? Word is that she's a self-absorbed bitch who doesn't help anyone but herself. If something will get her money, she might put on a show of not being a self-absorbed bitch but she can't hold that act for long. Also, she can't act.

I'm 42 and I've never seen a female singer, or any singer, so idolized by both critics and fans. They act like she's the second coming. I just don't get it.

Respect from who exactly r182? Most successful people in entertainment are self-absorbed bitches, she is no more self absorbed than Barbra, Aretha, Dionne, Whitney, etc.

Beyonce also gets a lot of respect from her peers, Britney Christina and Justin etc, for simply still working like a 20 year old despite being a 40 something mom. They have all given up on that years ago but Beyonce still manages to do arena tours.

R183, I would get it if she was as big as The Beatles, MJ, Madonna, Queen, etc. But she's nowhere near that level. And nothing she has done is as groundbreaking as Thriller, The White Album, Abbey Road, etc. so I'm not sure why critics are so excited about her.

[quote] she is no more self absorbed than Barbra, Aretha, Dionne, Whitney, etc.

That doesn't make any sense. She can't be the most "selfless entertainer" while being just as self-absorbed as the names you listed.

r186 where did I say she was a "selfless entertainer"? You must have me mixed up with someone else.

R185, check out the video at R88. Bey ain't has never been near that level and never will be. Bey is on the level of a Katy Perry.

At Bey's age, Madonna was still putting on great shows.

R187, I thought you were R173

r185 most people under 30 only know Beyonce, time marches on. Those artists are totally legends, but the young people will have their own

Bey is about to start looping on the Oldies FM stations.

I've never gotten the HUGE hype over her.

Yep r191, Dangerously In Love is 20 year old in June

Guess who clocked in at #1

I still think BREAK MY SOUL would be better if it was called EAT MY HOLE

R169, that clip made me feel bad for her. Performers used to be able to just come out and sing. Now that’s not enough: they have to sing AND fake dance while wearing aluminum antlers.

I don't know who is more to blame for the mechanical style of dancing with backup dancers that now seems de rigeur among pop stars--Britney or Janet. Michael Jackson's dancing was nowhere near as mechanical as that of those two.

I have to say I’m amazed that in the year 2023 a top performer has to plunder ballroom culture for inspiration.

She looks terrific for 51.

Her fans will cry racism that she has never won the Grammy Award for Album of the Year, but I think people in the biz don't really respect her, especially when she has 50 writers for one song, and the constant hype is a turn-off.

R194 bwhahaha! Fucking hell!

That’s her alter ego - Phancy Jizz

[quote] I think people in the biz don't really respect her

They don’t.

Diane Warren made a mention of why one of her songs required 25 writers are her off-their-meds fans pounced on her as if she burned down an orphanage.

Her critical acclaim is based on intimidation and bullying. There is no quality there.

I remember that r203. Diane can be messy but she wasn't wrong.

Diane wrote a song for Beyonce's 4.

It's the only song on the album with one sole writer listed.

In fairness R203 / R204, the credits on Beyoncé’s new album contain the writing credits for any and all samples used on the individual tracks, and afaik most of the songs contain at least one sample, hence the long list of writers.

R205 co-opting, plundering, recycling. There’s not one original idea on that entire album. It sucks.

The "dancers" are SO BAD and laughably so. It looks like a SNL parody!

This boy was much better, 30+ years ago.

R207 I love how those “twins” are completely out of time with each other. This is so shit I have to wonder if Debbie Allen choreographed it.

half the audience left, unreal bad....

Lady Gaga only sold out stadiums this year, with cheap tickets, and as everybody is experiencing high demand. Even Janet Jackson is selling out larger venues after struggling for decades. Lady Gaga isn’t as popular as dozens of females so her turn at stadiums is likely over. She struggled to sell out for years when she was one of the top 5 pop girls.

R208 Oh my! Aaron Rogers did a fantastic job there!

R145 is completely delusional and continues to try and insert Madonna in this thread as if she’s still relevant. Madonna is playing arenas NOT stadiums on her current tour. About half the cities are 1 date except for bigger markets like LA and New York. Taylor swift on the other hand is playing 2 or 3 stadiums per show. Madonna has hundreds of thousands of tickets still available and they will be heavily discounted by resellers when they are unable to unload them closer to the the show. Taylor swift sells out in minutes.

Madonna is a nostalgia act. Her last tour she had to cancel a ton of shows due to low ticket sales and those were theatres. She may have had ten shows in New York, but she was only filing about 3/4 of a 2000 seat theatre, not even the size of a standard arena. At 65, Madonna is NOT Tina Turner, and will look foolish with her jigsaw face and butt implants lip syncing “like a virgin”. Prepare for a slew of bad reviews, canceled shows, fan complaints about the show starting hours late.

R205 Well, there you said it. Beyonce relies on work other artists have done.

She's so edgy. "KNTY News."

Yawn.

R213 Who read that long, crazy ass screed? You poor pathetic mentally weak, fragile thing.

R214 I mean are you gonna pretend like the tradition of sampling in dance music means that none of those artists have any individual creativity? Just to satiate your dislike of Beyoncé?

Tbf I don’t love the album personally, there are a handful of songs I like (and I never liked disco Beyoncé (which makes an appearance)) but to act like there’s nothing creative or original about the way the songs are put together just seems to show that you don’t really understand modern dance music. Says more about you really.

"Says more about you really." Nanny nanny boo boo.

Boy, these Beyonce stans like R217 will absolutely NOT have any criticism of their thunder-thighed royal highness, will they?

R218 I said I don’t like the album. I was talking about sampling generally. Can you read?

R219 Beyonce stans are a lot like MAGA cultists. They're ashamed to admit they worship her. I can understand why.

I love these Beyonce threads. There's no middle ground when it comes to her. DLers either love her or hate her, and the bitchy back and forth between the lovers and loathers is hilarious!

The lyrics of 'Cuff It' are vulgar and inappropriate and should have been beneath Beyonce Knowles and her record company to release such a crass song.

R222 Shut up. They're brilliant, and Beyonce is the most talented singer-songwriter of the past two centuries!

How many singers do you know who could come up with the stunning lyric, "fuck it up, fuck it up, fuck it up?" Pure genius.

[Quote] Who read that long, crazy ass screed?

R216 I love you

R220 I ain’t ashamed about shit bitch. Queen Bey is the greatest female recording artist ever and one of the all time greats of all time. I don’t worship no mortal. Queen Bey is a beautiful goddess.

White Beyonce stans are the worst. It's like they are over compensating for something

Is her tour really playing to half empty stadiums? I can’t stand Beyonce and her hype, but I hate when DL lies about shit like this. Same with the repugnant Janet. If she’s selling out venues (FINALLLY!) and who cares. I hate the lies. I can only imagine when Madonna starts her tour the lies, exaggerations, and gaslighting will be off the charts.

R230. The tour is on track to become the highest grossing tour of all time. That’s how stupid these people are. They don’t even try to make their lies plausible.

R231 Until Madonna finishes her GH tour. There is a rumor at Live Nation she may pull the “ill tour for years, with huge gaps, to run up my numbers” thing like Cher and Elton did.

Madonna’s tour is expected to surpass Beyoncé’s only if she extends to Asia, Latin America, and Australia. Big rumors she’ll tour South Africa.

I’ll try to find the post (I forgot my username) but I reliable Live Nation insider said on MadonnaNation that:

The GH tour will be divided up into 3 parts meaning this go around will have a separate set list than the next 2. Of course, many songs will be carried over for all 3 parts.

2023-24: Itinerary already announced with possible extension through March.

2024-2025: Part 2. Many of the same US cities, but some dropped, others added. EU cities same, more added. Summer to Winter 2025.

2025: final leg. Huge stadium tour. Grand finale. THE biggest hits only. Summer 2025-Winter 2025/2026. Tix will be cheaper, but she’ll play multiple dates at each city. She wants to go out in a huge way.

If anyone wonders where the greatest concentration of individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder exist, look no further than the beyhive. Totally unhinged, delusional, divorced from reality, serious attachment issues, black and white thinking and unable to regulate their disturbing and dangerous emotions.

Mental illness is the root of Beyoncé’s success.

R235 No, no one comes close to the Lady Gaga loons. She is classic BPD and she and her loons must have validation in the form of awards, constant constant awards or life is not worth living.

R231 Only according to Bey's accountants, who can't even file her tax returns correctly.

R234 Madonna’s tour, if it wasn’t clear. It wasn’t clear. I can see Madonna doing that.

The tour is a record making hit. This thread is for haters.

It's not a flop but it is definitely not going to be the highest grossing tour of all time. Ridiculous.

R234 yeah right sure madonnas planning to play multiple stadium dates in 2025, see also Madonnas last tour…

R241 Cunt, take that right wing trash rag out of here. Page six. Where’s Roger Friedman? GTFO

Madonna STILL sold out. She wasn’t playing the hits.

Bitch you watch her blow the box office wide open with extensions. With insanely expensive tickets, she’s selling out huge venues. If she lowered prices like many, she could live for weeks playing stadiums around the world. Underestimate her at your peril.

As I recall the Boston shows weren’t even half sold but she canceled due to “doctors orders”.

A peek at her Boston dates for this tour show a sea of blue dots. Super easy to get a ticket to this next dumpster fire.

Nobody's going to walk out of a concert after they paid today's ticket prices.

Nobody was interested in the Madame X show. She was promoting her latest album and nobody wanted to sit in their chair without a phone waiting for M to come on at midnight to sing her shitty new songs and pontificate.

The Celebration Tour is a reset and people want to see her singing her hits. That's why it's selling out. Madonna's catalogue is still a huge draw.

R243 You’re really pathetic looking up bad articles from dubious sites. I mean, you literally spent time to google about a tour 4 years ago to try to prove a point. Her Boston shows were selling fine. She was hurt. She literally was performing 14-17 shows at each city which equaled a large venue at very expensive prices for an album that was low performing. Were there dates that underperformed? Of course. The tix were insanely expensive but the proof is in the total box office for each show. THAT tells you if massive tix were give away. They weren’t unlike soooooo many other divas do.

I miss bands with real musicians and vocalists that didn’t have to lip sync or use autotune.

Women are the new tastemakers and gatekeepers, and they have no taste.

People on this page are seriously calling her fat. Obviously she is privileged but for a 41 woman that has had 3 children she looks fantastic.

R249 Take away the Spanx, the support hose, the wig, the false eyelashes, and the contouring makeup, then we'll see how "fantastic" she really looks.

R235 You stupid cunt Kelly Rowlands is a proud member of the Beyhive. It negates your entire comment.

Or maybe it might mean that Kelly is mentally unstable too…

R252 No it doesn’t mean that. The poster was being a typical fag besting woman against woman. Queen Bey was nothing like Diana Ross, no disrespect. She wasn’t a complete tyrannical maniac behind the scenes and she WAS the most talented among her group. Beyoncé was actually humble as fuck being that it was her dad who invested his personal income to get the group on the map, allowing them to enter talent competitions and ultimately meet with record execs. I’m talking when they still had the original two members. Matthew Knowles investing his time and money to put the girls in all the right places and finance their wardrobe and studio time for demos.

She was their lead singer but also had the sensibility of that auctioneering typing singalong almost rapping cadence which she introduced to Destiny’s Child style of singing. And then she would completely transform on stage. Kelly recognizes this and has said as much. Kelly and Michelle recognize this and that’s why they continued to be successful in their solo endeavors. But more importantly they didn’t become broke or desperate like so many other mere members of girl groups. It was Bey singing lead on the most of Writings on the Wall tracks that brought to group to international fame. They started to share leads more often in following albums.

R240 you can speak things into existence to make them come true. I do that with the all my successes in life. It just makes you look foolish when you use it to go against what the industry and financial experts are stating about someone else’s success.

Also Bey did something unprecedented when it comes to a band member leaving to go solo. She came back and made sure the girls had one last hit album.

That’s right after the huge success of Beys solo debut, Sony records wanted her to release a sophomore album the following year and have the DC album on contract to be a Christmas album or greatest hits, basically a throwaway album. But Bey refused, mostly out of her loyalty to Kelly. And they created what many regard as their best most mature record.

And here I thought Ri-Ri at the Superbowl was low energy. Ri-Ri was PREGNANT

Big BEY looks like she can barely make it down the steps and off the stage without huffing and puffing. And she's not even singing.

That fabric near her crotch and thighs must be made out of titanium because how is it not exploding from the stress?

R256 Huffing and puffing? Bey has one the greatest breathing controls in the game. Please post a video. If not I have to accept you are lying. She’s taking a bit more steady dancing wise because she just had foot surgery. After 20 years of serving these hos nonstop larger than life energy she gets a pass.

I don't have to post a video R257: it's in the original post, the You Tube, see about 2:58 and on when she first descends the stairs geriatrically and wiping her mouth.

I stopped reading when someone compared her to Janis Joplin.

No.

R259 Unfortunately I would not compare Queen Bey to genius that is Janis Joplin because QB never fell victim to the demon that is drug abuse. However they are very similar in their exhilarating live performances mixing soul and rock music. But Janis was more of a solo songwriter while Bey is more collaborative. Janis was also a more folksy artist, while Bey is more a traditional vocalist in terms of melisma, falsetto and all of that. Some said that Janis could not sing during her era.

It's embarrassing watching big fat Bey lumbering around that stage and sounding like shit.

One must suffer from serious body dysmorphia or bulimia to consider Queen Bey fat. Sad.

R258 All I got from rewatching the vid is that Bey’s delivery of the hook line of Shalamar’s black bbq/house party classic was perfection. Her runs are so smooth. Big ups to Jody Watley.

You can tell OP is lying. Nobody and I mean nobody leaves a Queen Bey concert early. It would be akin to watching Michael Jordan courtside, 90s Chicago and leaving because the Bulls were getting their ass whooped.

Stop calling this woman queen.

R265 You mad? Queen Bey has a song for that.

This thread needs more Brandy vs. Beyoncé…

Anyone who think singing is melisma and all that idiotic vocal gymnastics with zero soul is an idiot. The best singers don’t have the technically best voices. They emote. They connect to the lyrics. They make you feel the song, not their vocal distractions.

R257 not for the prices she's asking for tickets, no.

R268 You do realize singing is subjective. Fkin ironic pretentious ass post.

Queen Bey sings excellently to much of the world. And she has soul to me. She also can rap and execute vocal gymnastics on an uptempo dance track. People underestimate that talent. Her nack from going from rapping to vocal belts within the same song is pretty dam unique. I’ll take a Erykah Badu or Amy Winehouse over vocalists like Whitney Houston or Celine Dion any day. Though I won’t lie Whitney had beautiful voice and I will always love might be the great vocal performance of all time. What Bey does with her voice here is so underrated. The girl got soul up the ass.

No r270, she doesn’t. Please go back to your hive.

R271 Again I cannot officially claim or a be a member of the Beyhive because of my religious beliefs. I do respect it’s existence however. She delivered that song flawlessly. Most of your favs would be out of breath. She hit the high register of the third”boyyyyyy” right rapid fire rap cadence.

What a role model for young women, just be a whore, it's ok!

R273 ???????

a troll post, perhaps. I should stop seeming like an obsessed wacko and leave this thread.

R246 Madonna cannot play stadiums

R275 That is literally the stupidest thing said. Cunt, even her biggest detractors wouldn’t say stupid shit like that.

I thought Madge’s last big tour was stadium.

Madonnas last tour was 1-2k seat auditoriums that she couldn’t fill and ended up canceling a number of shows r278

Also check out Ticketmaster for madonnas latest tour, her stops in Brooklyn, Inglewood, Sacramento among many many others have sold maybe 5-10%, it’s all blue dots, how dreadful.

R280 Madge is aging. She was once the Queen of touring. Let’s not negate her accomplishments.

I was never a Madge fan and always knew she had a Norma Desmond quality, but it turns out she's much MUCH worse. She has damged herself so much via sm, but hey if people want to hear these raggedy divas on their oldies tours, great, go fir it.

R280 Lies. Also, her tour for many dates is more than SIX MONTHS AWAY. The lies. I love it. Meanwhile, Madonna is heading towards a $2B tour box office.

We're gonna hear about this on The View Tomorrow.

Beyhive don’t get me but I dislike the new fillers in her face. She is a beautiful goddess and doesn’t need them. But more importantly it’s a slippery slope.

R267 I laughed out loud at parts of that.

R270 There wasn't a lot of singing in that.

R270 And then there's this.

Get ready to cringe!

I can't unsee the insane ridiculous "blonde" barbie who dances up to Beyoncé at 4:10 in the video, to collect Beyoncé's Party City lamé jacket then dances away.

R283 Facts. Metallica tickets for a year and a half have sold more. Taylor swift tickets would be gone in 10 minutes. Madonnas over, her tour is a disaster before it has even begun.

Madonna played at huge stadiums for decades. She was playing at stadiums into her 50s. Let's see if Beyonce will still play at stadiums as she approaches 60.

Madonna at Morumbi STADIUM (in São Paulo), 11 years ago. She was 53!

Beyonce's dad says she's 2 years older than she claims to be.

I believe it. She is starting to get that middle age masculine look some women have.

How is Blue Ivy doing these days?

Remember when she was just a pillow?

R287 Beyoncé’s body was absolutely sic as hell in that era. She had the thickest thighs with a small waist and upper body frame. And that black Barbie doll face. Natural beauty.

[quote][R287] Beyoncé’s body was absolutely sic as hell in that era. She had the thickest thighs with a small waist and upper body frame. And that black Barbie doll face. Natural beauty.

And then she got old. It's OK, it happens to all of us.

[quote]And that black Barbie doll face

Only black the Barbie doll actually has black "skin."

Beyoncé looks great for 42. Haters fall back. Beyoncé is the most beautiful woman in Hollywood after Halle Berry. She and Lupita Nyongo.

You're going to make the Zendaya troll mad , r303.

Nothing special without makeup, and this picture is 6 years old!

Solange is the talent in that family.

What happened to her movie career?

R305 she has on blush in that pic on the right. Beyoncé is beautiful because she has such a symmetrical face. She has those nice almond eyes. But that’s what really what makes her beautiful. Her eyes aren’t amazingly stunning like a Jlo or a Liz Taylor and she has thin lips, especially for a woman of color. You can really see the symmetry in the pic. Yea she is usually manicured within her inch of her life with the blonde weaves and bleach eye brows. But that’s just part of her schtick.

I am weary of the weaves. Hopefully more women of color will embrace the growing natural hair trend.

I will never let a white person on DL dictate to me what is black skin. Do you not see the irony of your racism. Some of the most influential civil rights forward African-Americans had much lighter skin than Queen Bey. Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, Thurgood Marshall, Lena Horne. That is because your stupid ass slave owning ancestors dictated this standard for us. Queen Bey has two black parents with her mother being mixed race of Creole descent. Black people can bet very dark or very light. Very light with big lips and noses or more Euro centric features.

I bet you made a valid argument, r310, but you lost me at Queen Bey.

The Beyhive has invaded. Call the Orkin Man!

Call me when Queen Camilla dies, and King Charles marries Beyonce, THEN the cult can call her Queen.

R313 She is America’s Queen. Deal with it.

R314 Queen of Thunder Thighs, maybe, but that's it.

[quote][R313] She is America’s Queen. Deal with it.

Seek help. Fast!

The Anti-Madonna/Beyonce lying troll needs new material. They can’t lie convincingly.

R291 And that Barbie probably called her parents and said, "Oh, my gosh, mom and dad! I get to take off Beyonce's coat in the show!"

Just like that gender fluid black thing with the white page boy wig. He probably told his queen friends he's the one who gets to hold Beyonce's hand as she walks down the stairs so that heifer doesn't trip and fall on her way down (like she's frequently done in the past).

Marchioness of Mediocrity

Queen Bey is excellence personified.

R320 She got major shit for lip synching to the song, especially when Kelly Clarkson did her song live.

R321 That wasn’t that you stupid bitch. You are talking about when she sung the National Anthem for Obama’s 2nd inauguration back in 2013. That’s because it was freezing temperatures and customary for singers to prerecord in such circumstances. Here she sung it live a week later for the press and haters like you.

Remember when she faked the first pregnancy?

I'm so sick of the "Queen" shit

[quote] Remember when she faked the first pregnancy?

In her defense, it’s hard to conceive after 50.

There’s only one Queen and that’s Madonna. No one will match the hysteria, the absolute world domination, the cultural significance, all with the sales and charting. Her impact was unlike any other female, and 99.9999999999% of males. However, there’s only two people who could come very close- Beyonce and Taylor. That’s it. And you all know it. Hate all you want but Beyonce and Taylor are heads and shoulders above any other pretender.

[quote] What happened to her movie career?

Her thespian skills are now devoted full-time to pretending she’s sexually aroused by Jay Z.

She makes Mariah look svelte.

R3222 Kelly Clarkson did just fine singing her song live, despite the weather.

Beyonce got so much shit for lip synching, she had to go back and rehearse and rehearse and rehearse, then come back and sing it live to prove she could actually do it.

Talk about an insecure bitch.

Baroness of Below Average…

I know the mantra of this place is pointless bitchery. Lord knows I come here for that very thing, but there is some.... weird energy in all these Beyonce threads. Perhaps even weirder than all the Janet threads. Is there any middle ground here? I can't believe there's a forum full of homosexuals (some of us under 90) and that none of us like her even a teensy bit?

I've never been in the hive. I've actually never owned a full Beyonce album, just known her through her singles. Many of which remain classics. I still love Dejavu and Crazy in Love all these years later. I've kind of always hated her middle of the road ballads which have felt... clinical and tailor made for weddings of straight couples who met at the local community college.

But, I will say, Renaissance took me from a casual appreciator of some of her singles to a full fledged fan. I think it eclipses everything she's previously released, including the 'important' work from the Lemonade era. It feels like a whole damn body of work -- gloriously celebrating and uplifting the gay, queer, black and brown roots of dance music with expansive, incredibly detailed, even sprawling songs that do not feel... scientifically engineered for the streaming age the way so much pop music is these days. It caused me to buy a ticket for the tour's stop in DC. First time and I'll fully admit that I'm looking forward to it. I'm avoiding all the spoilers, but I'm expecting a very entertaining evening. Yes, some of her most ardent fans are annoying with their idolatry, but so are any super fans. I don't think it negates any talent the woman has.

Alright, I'll let you get back to the bitchery.

r322 I've been a Beyonce listener since 1997 but I thought she did WAYYYY too much singing the anthem at that Superbowl presser. She overestimated how much people cared, she totally did the best half-time show ever (with the exception of Prince) shortly after that and no one even remembered the inauguration.

[quote]I've kind of always hated her middle of the road ballads which have felt... clinical and tailor made for weddings of straight couples who met at the local community college.

r331 not the straight couples who met at the local community college😁 Me, Myself and I IMO is her best ballad, I think its also her most underrated song

The problem is no-one really remembers a single song she's done since about 2010. People will say "what about Break My Soul?" but come on, who ever hums or whistles that mess?

The only Beyonce song I remember is Single Ladies, and that was 15 years ago.

I just read this on popbitch…

The headcount of Beyoncé's new tour entourage? 550.

R331 You lost me at "important work from the Lemonade era..."

Lemonade era?

When I think lemonade, this is what comes to mind.

R336 I've posted about this before, but my absolute favorite Beyonce fail was when she was at the Grammys when Lemonade was nominated for nine awards. She showed up in this ridiculous Egyptian-tribal African get up, trying hard to look like a Black Queen, and CARRYING A NOTEBOOK with all the speeches she had pre-written, expecting to win in every category.

Bitch only ended up winning for Best Video and Urban Contemporary Album. Ha!

Lemonade is a work O'Fart!

R338 Beyonce's had a lot of fails...er..falls.

Does she do the rap live in break my soul? Can anyone hook me up with a clip of it?

[quote] The problem is no-one really remembers a single song she's done since about 2010.

Are you serious? There’s a bunch of very memorable songs from her self titled 2016 album, and a bunch from her Lemonade album. Partition / drunk in love / flawless / Formation / Sorry / All Night.

Have to agree with R331 when he mentions the weird energy on this site when it comes to Beyoncé, its like an organized deliberate ignorance of reality in order to fulfill a hatred of her that always feels slightly racist and troll-farm-ish.

I believe we’re still waiting on a single link for a ‘critics slam beyonces tour’ from a credible music journalist. 350 comments later.

[quote]Partition / drunk in love / flawless / Formation / Sorry / All Night.

🤔

Of course the cult FFed the OP until he got greyed out.

R342, there’s a sizable number of black posters on DL that don’t care for Beyoncé or the Beyhive. Of which I am one. Sorry, not sorry. I don’t think she’s all that.

As for the white posters who don’t like her, I don’t worry about them. They’re always going to have issues with people of color. Same as the haters of Janet or Whitney or any other black entertainment icons.

But just because I’m black doesn’t mean I’m drinking the Bey-flavored Koolaid. You can’t bully people into liking her.

Something about current pop culture-we worship mediocrity in our celebrities. Beyoncé, Taylor and of course, Trump. Look at the amount of reality stars that we obsess over. I mean, what does it mean when we create stars that get their start on YouTube and TikTok?

AND GET OFF OF MY LAWN…

R343 yea but how old are you? Bet you know Taylor’s albums start to end 😭

These twats who claim certain celebrities have dead eyes? These twats have dead eyes.

[quote]As for the white posters who don’t like her, I don’t worry about them. They’re always going to have issues with people of color.

White guy here. I would rather listen to Chaka Khan, Mavis Staples, Ann Peebles, Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner, Billie Holiday, Erykah Badu, Tracy Chapman, Esther Philips, Ella Fitzgerald, Diana Ross, Joan Armatrading, Martha Reeves, even Marian Anderson, than listen to Beyoncé.

It has nothing to do with her being a person of color. She is dull on the merits.

[quote][R343] yea but how old are you? Bet you know Taylor’s albums start to end

44, Beyonce's age according to her father. No, don't care about Taylor, either.

Why is the Beyhive so deeply insecure?

More delusion....apparently no other artist in existence is as great as Beyonce!

Look at that! The beyhive got OP red tagged!

R350 while that person is a little deluded, Beyoncé did establish the ‘surprise drop’ album as a new way of doing things. And I mean new in terms of a huge release artist before you mention some person we’ve never heard of before that did it back in 2006 💀

Renaissance is such a pretentious name.

R329 You are an incredulous ass bitch. Haha. Unbelievable.

R338 There was nothing Egyptian about the Queens wardrobe Grammys 2017.

Nearly every national anthem has been lip sung for the president’s inauguration with a handful of exceptions. Don’t ever lie again.

R338 why the fuck would call the Queen out of her name. What is wrong with you. Buck would have showed respect.

R360 idk that looks more Roman Catholic to me

we left after 6 songs, too much fake singing. ugh

Most people can’t name 10 Beyoncé songs (mostly the Lemonade and militant “I AM A STRONG BLACK WOMAN” era ones) but you can name 10 Madonna songs. Beyoncé is married to that FUG ape face former drug dealer who definitely is on the down low. There’s no way she’s going to get horny for that. Unless she’s asexual which I’ve had a suspicion about for years. She isn’t sexy even though she used sexuality as her image(same as that horrific Kim Kartrashian Kunt, zero sexuality plus plays herself off as if she’s so into sex) Now Blue Ivy is on tour with Beyoncé and she really isn’t a great dancer. She’s ok, slower than the others and has a face only a blind momma could tolerate.

Lil kim is the real queen bee 🐝

I would never compares the Bey to Yannis Yoplin

[quote]The girl got soul up the ass.

She's definitely got something up her ass, but it's not soul.

Tina and Jay-Z’s puppet strings are in her ass…

Regardless of how bad Beyoncé’s tour is - it can't be worse than Janet Jackson's current tour. Some of the reviews are brutal and must have been written by DLers. Brutal.

r370 - can you link to some of those reviews? (Not a rhetorical question... genuinely interested in reading them!)

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