Does anyone else believe in reincarnation now because of Shirley Maclaine?

Reading her book on all her past lives has started to make me a believer. Is there anyone else who has similarly been converted?

My parents, specifically my mother, believed strongly in reincarnation before I was born. I was raised to believe in it. Anyone else raised like this? I've always been curious.

No, but I believe in cunts, because of Shirley MacLaine.

OP, one thing that makes me a skeptic is that, so often, people who claim to have had previous lives "remember" being important people (e.g., world leaders, war heroes, movie stars, etc.) How often do you hear someone saying she was a secretary at an insurance company in Flint?

That's why I don't believe R5. How many people could have been Cleopatra or a Caesar?

If you look a little more deeply into the subject there are books and books about people who had very ordinary past lives.

Just because a few people have said they discovered they were major historical figures is no reason to not believe...unless for some reason you don't want to.

Not Shirley related but I had a past life regression (via hypnosis) many years ago. Was able to name the town, describe it's location, glimpse what my life was like ( unmarried, living with my sister, worked in a stable/blacksmith shop) a fairly miserable character. ..and watched myself die of TB (vomiting blood). Lived from the 1820's to mid 1840's.

Funny thing: I was able to find the town on a detailed map of Sweden as it was right where i described it under hypnosis. Same physical layout: a small town on an island yet close to the mainland. Fucked me up for a good while -

[quote]Reading her book on all her past lives has started to make me a believer. Is there anyone else who has similarly been converted?

Yes, I read her book 40 years ago < I can't believe I just wrote that. She definitely opened my mind to a lot of what was then a lot of new information. It rang true to me and over the years I can see why, because it is the truth.

Her treatment of her daughter makes me question her as an enlightened person. It doesn't ring true with the personality she presents of herself in books like this.

Shirley also believed her husband when he told her he was an alien.

R5 Using Shirley Maclaine as an example, I think in all her past lives she was never anyone important. In one of them, she was a Coptic peasant girl for example. The closest she came to being famous in a past life is when she hooked up with the PM of a European country and stated that she remembered them both being lovers in a past life where he was someone important and she was his lover.

Her Atlantean past life was the one where human beings were both male and female and would somehow divide but I don't remember her full explanation.

Atlanta sounds really cool, doesn't it?

How would reincarnation work? There are a lot more people today than 3,000 years ago. Did a whole lot of souls just wait around until recently?

Actually I got it wrong. Her life in Atlantis was separate from her pre-Atlantis past life when she was an androgynous being.

[quote] I vividly remember being androgynous in the Lemurian (pre-Atlantis) time period. My state of being and that of others around me was peaceful and serene. Procreation occurred through the power of the mind in deep meditation. Each of us had male and female genitalia, but what was important was the desire of the soul, which was made manifest through connecting to the God source. Each human had an equal vibration of yin and yang, female and male.

At some point in Lemurian history, some of us became intrigued with the idea of dividing the yin and the yang vibration so we could observe the other with more objectivity. I was one of those who agreed to participate in what came to be called sexual division. Today, every culture on Earth has a myth that describes the equivalent of Eve being born out of the rib of Adam. Out of one came two. That is what I remember experiencing.

I remember the ceremony and the attendant spiritual practitioners and masters. I was immersed in a tank of very thick water which was also infused with light. Each of my seven chakra centers was open and receptive. I felt peaceful and willing to be divided. The spiritual practitioner meditated on a ray of light coming from above, which included all the seven colors of the rainbow—one for each chakra. I joined the meditation of the spiritual practitioners as the light went down the center of my physical body, separating each chakra in half. We knew in those days that the physical body was what we had created from coagulated thought. We knew we had created our bodies with our celestial thought patterns.

Slowly, my body began to separate into two vibrations—one yin and one yang. Each was equal to the other. I directed my soul to enter the female side of my separated body. On cue, my soul mate, who was present, entered the male side. The sexual division was complete. Out of the androgynous body two were born: one male, one female—each with an inculcated soul. From then on, I felt as a human being that I would always look for my other half.

This is her past life as a Muslim gypsy girl [quote] I remembered being a Muslim gypsy girl who had migrated from Morocco and was living with the Coptic Christians in the hills of Spain. I remembered a cross I wore, which, when I presented it, protected me from the Muslims and the Christians alike. At one point in my present-day walk, I was guided to a jewelry store in a small village along the Camino. I looked in the window and saw the cross I remembered from several hundred years before. I went in and questioned the proprietor. He gave me the same information I remembered from the past-life memory; it had belonged to a gypsy girl (me) from Morocco, and she had used it for protection. I bought the cross (my only purchase on the trek) and always take it with me when I leave home.

Oops messed up the quote.

[quote] I remembered being a Muslim gypsy girl who had migrated from Morocco and was living with the Coptic Christians in the hills of Spain. I remembered a cross I wore, which, when I presented it, protected me from the Muslims and the Christians alike. At one point in my present-day walk, I was guided to a jewelry store in a small village along the Camino. I looked in the window and saw the cross I remembered from several hundred years before. I went in and questioned the proprietor. He gave me the same information I remembered from the past-life memory; it had belonged to a gypsy girl (me) from Morocco, and she had used it for protection. I bought the cross (my only purchase on the trek) and always take it with me when I leave home.

[quote]I bought the cross (my only purchase on the trek) and always take it with me when I leave home.

Oh, yeah...bullshit!

I would never base philosophical decisions on anything said by Shirley McClaine. I have a policy.

I'd come back as Jlo's pussy. Some prime dick down there.

I wonder what past life Shirley was sharing with Liza here

When you die, you die. That's it. Game over.

Anything else is wishful thinking.

Grow up.

Liza looks blitzed in that, pic, R21!

Havent read Shirley MacLaines work but have been into spiritual stuff most of my life and more in the last ten years. I recall during a meditation having visions of myself living in Berlin during WWII and running from air sirens. I recall seeing a fountain with a black fence around it as I was running into a store for shelter. I did end up looking up pictures afterwards and finding the same fountain I saw in my dream which messed me up for a while.

In my opinion these are simultaneously occurring lives that we occasionally remember and tap into as everything is existing here and now with time and space being illusory.

[quote]Grow up.

What you'll ALWAYS find is that people who don't believe in anything ALWAYS seem to [bold]feel superior[/bold] to those who do. Very odd.

R14 - one theory is that there are a certain number of oversouls with our human physical forms being branches of these limited number of higher ones.

Something like this:

One reincarnation theory I've heard is that soulmates swap genders in every life. Dead Again, a movie with Emma Thompson and Kenneth Branagh, displayed this when Emma Thompson goes through a past life regression to remember her past life. The twist is that she was actually Kenneth Branagh in her past life and he was Emma.

Maclaine, if anything, made it seem less probably. If there are past lives, most likely she would have been something non-descript like a washer woman.

I know how. When your soul leaves your body, it decides what to do next. Some feel terrible separation from their earth life when they die. Or they know that some people will be suffering greatly when they die, and want to stay present in that spirit form to either wait for their loved ones to die so their souls are reunited, or until they know their loved ones will be OK for a bit without them. They send signs to their loved ones but cannot interfere.

If my mother died when I was 12, and I had an awful time for years, she could choose to be a spirit watching by closely. It's difficult for the spirit to do this, and some flat out refuse and immediately respawn, either as humans, general energy, or other plants and animals. Mellow spirits often choose to return as trees, content to sit and observe.

Back to my scenario. Now let's say I'm doing better, off to college, and my mother's spirit is feeling drained. She can choose to reenter a physical form and go into the life of a child who dies young. Her time on earth is nurturing to her soul and she returns stronger, undepleted from the chaos of adult pain. When she returns to spirit form, she can choose to stay and look after me and the family she just left or return for another short yet brilliant life on earth. This can continue until I die of old age and we are reunited in spirit form. We embrace, and love is the energy that comes from our reunion. If it's big enough, it will spin off and become a new spirit. That new spirit is connected to its spirit family. All families have old spirits to help support the new.

When we are in spirit form we see our true energy, and it is not as we recognize it on earth. You have to release to your higher mind to get a glimpse.

Evil works in a similar way, but can be reversed.

I certainly think there’s more here than what we can fathom. Humans are so smug assuming that we alone can master what is “real” based on what’s knowable to us. I’m really into the multiverse theory that suggests we’re running parallel lives. He’ll, even Hillary Clinton buys into it. And she’s been wrong about nothing.

I wonder if that means there's a parallel universe where Hillary became president. I'd rather live in that one.

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